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Basic guideline

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:17 am
by site admin
Here's an audio clip of Buck, talking about the study material and the basic guideline.
This is a unlisted clip right now. Not sure if this would be a good upload for all.
Let me know your thoughts...

Re: Basic guideline

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:44 am
by John Bales
One of the best ten minutes , 16 seconds of words ever spoken. Thank you Jim. John

Re: Basic guideline

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:00 pm
by site admin
Glad to hear.
I was a bit hesitant to post public, as I disagree with the written material being too complicated. As we all know, there are soo many hidden gems that hit us in the face each time it is read.

Re: Basic guideline

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:44 am
by Steve Craig
I believe that one of the reasons that the material seems confusing, or complicated is that there is simply SO much that comes at a newbie the first time that our brains have a hard time handling it all. I know this was the case for me personally.

Another problem is the average guy tends to "skip" around in the book. This is a HUGE mistake. The way Buck wrote, the material MUST be read from beginning to end. Jumping around will cause alot of confusion.

And third, it is a proven fact that the average person only retains 50 to 60% of what they read the first time it is read. Add to this the wonderful and many fact of fishing that Buck wrote about, and you can see why many, many people become confused.
I takes an average of 6 times reading anything for you and I to retain even 90% of what we read.

This becomes quite evident when we STUDY the material. Something we have read over and over again, all of a sudden we understand what he is talking about. Yet, we wonder how we missed this tidbit? AND much of the material will not be understood, until we experience it on the water.

Bucks material is "right on". Always has been and always will be. I actually feel sorry for all those guys out there pounding the shoreline, and never knowing what we have been blessed to receive.

John said it best. Best 10 minutes, 16 seconds ever!

Re: Basic guideline

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:25 pm
by John Bales
It is a lot to absorb but if a person wants it bad enough, they will find a way. Good things come to those who are willing to put forth the effort. Fishing is no different. You can actually become as good as you want to be. Every single day I am on the water, I learn more. Here is one from today. A 6.1 . How about a total of 38 fish with the biggest at 6.1 and then one at 5, two at 4 1/2 and at least 15 fish over 3. We are in the pre-spawn and our water temps are right at 50 degrees. Anyone that fishes knows that the bass make a big movement shallow(within reach) near this water temp. It takes some sun and some wind and when they move up you can really get em good. Today wasn't fast and furious. We just had a big front and they dropped a little deeper but not out of reach. I think we got three or four fish off of a few spots but mostly one here and one there. John

Re: Basic guideline

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:40 pm
by Team9nine
Geez - nice fish, John! Retirement can’t come soon enough for me :lol:

Re: Basic guideline

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:16 pm
by Steve Craig
Geez John!
Nice pre spawn fish!
Ive missed the entire pre spawn and spawn out here this year, due to my health. But finally feeling alot better and able to drive again. Just have to catch up on all this work this year.

My retirement will have to wait a while I guess.

Anyway, super nice bass!

Re: Basic guideline

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:04 pm
by John Bales
Thanks Steve, Any more, I don't get many over 6lbs since they spray the weeds all the time. The lake where I caught that one they don't spray and it is one of the few natural lakes that have shad so they eat good. Lakes like this one are hard to find. Take Care. John

Re: Basic guideline

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:22 am
by waterflogger_no_more
John, water temp on my home lake here in Indy (Morse) was 53 yesterday. I'm still learning about pre spawn fishing, so my question is, you mentioned 50 degrees being the temp they move shallow, is it just around 50, or does it extend into the mid or higher 50s?

I've been out twice this week and haven't found any active fish save one, a large fish that only stayed hooked about five or six seconds, caught around 15 feet on a breakline.

Water color may be a factor, the lake is a bit muddy, although it is a little clearer down near the dam where I hooked that one.

I'm making a serious effort to get out as often as possible on this same lake so I can what what happens as the seasons progress.

Harold

Re: Basic guideline

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 5:40 am
by Hal Standish
site admin wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:17 am Here's an audio clip of Buck, talking about the study material and the basic guideline.
This is a unlisted clip right now. Not sure if this would be a good upload for all.
Let me know your thoughts...
Thanks Jim! Bucks basic guideline is the only place to start learning how to to catch more and better fish!

Re: Basic guideline

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 4:10 pm
by John Bales
Harold, Just returned from back to back trips, St. Clair and then the Niagara River. The shallow movement I am referring to is a seasonal movement, now a normal daily fish movement. It happens somewhere between 48-50 degrees. You must get some stable weather for it to happen, It is a pre spawn thing and it is a feeding up before the spawn deal. They come up in large groups when you hit it right. It's already happened here and we are past that point for the most part so I am sure yours is past also. Next step is the spawn. John